time. supervisor mirkarimi: so the ask here is, just so that we're clear, the proponents want to continue to see it. and i am one of those people, but i'm trying to understand the economics. is it a difference of us allocating, what is it, $7 -- $.7 million, $700,000. >> if you think this is the only program in the p.u. crumplet you should continue -- p.u.c. you should continue funding at full rates, yes. you would be cutting every other program in the p.u.c., including taking care of our power plants, including our transmission, include anything for work on city facilities, and this would be the one program you would leave whole while every other program in the city is being cut, yes. that would be what it would take. supervisor mirkarimi: can you make that statement any more powerful than that?